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 When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/23/09 05:33 PM
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So when is it that yall pursue getting those trophy bucks? Does rut time matter at all? Age matter at all? The ability to spread their genetics etc etc?
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/23/09 06:53 PM
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oh yea and we can for sure start some debates about when the big ones go down
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/23/09 07:06 PM
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His genetics have already been spread in seasons past, so it doesn't really matter!IMO
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/23/09 07:10 PM
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well fish, remember that in previous seasons he might not have been such a dominant buck since he was younger,and only bred with a few does.....
but id be willing to bet that as far as low fence ranches go, the biggest bucks get taken opening weekend.
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/23/09 07:15 PM
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well fish, remember that in previous seasons he might not have been such a dominant buck since he was younger,and only bred with a few does.....
but id be willing to bet that as far as low fence ranches go, the biggest bucks get taken opening weekend. more than likely that is very true. but if the hunters out at our ranch take a huge buck open weekend or before the rut that is less than 6.5 then they better be prepared for one hell of a verbal tearing apart.
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/23/09 07:29 PM
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Most breeding is done by younger bucks.
My wife's only thing is it can't stare at her when she is eating or sleeping!
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/23/09 07:34 PM
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Most breeding is done by younger bucks. I might agree with this, but I believe most early breeding of does is done by mature bucks. I believe most of the time the mature bucks are the ones breeding the first does that come in. Once a majority of the does come in, whichever buck mature or immature is closest and gets to her first does the breeding. Since there are a lot more immature bucks than there are mature bucks, they do a majority of the breeding.
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/23/09 07:37 PM
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Shoot your largest bucks at 7 1/2 before the rut to ensure antlers aren't broken up...
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/23/09 07:49 PM
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/23/09 09:56 PM
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At our place those bucks don't show themselves till the rut anyway.
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/23/09 10:05 PM
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I would say if your are really anal about letting all your big bucks walk for management purposes, then more power to you, but the majority of the people who hunt will take a personal trophy no matter what time of the season it is when the opportunity is presented.
Most really big bucks don't show up until the rut, and that is when I try to spend most of my time hunting for that reason.
Later in the season, during the post rut is also good when the bucks are beat down, and the hunting pressure is off, and the big bucks are trying to look for food to survive.
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/24/09 01:36 AM
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I would say if your are really anal about letting all your big bucks walk for management purposes, then more power to you, but the majority of the people who hunt will take a personal trophy no matter what time of the season it is when the opportunity is presented.
Most really big bucks don't show up until the rut, and that is when I try to spend most of my time hunting for that reason.
Later in the season, during the post rut is also good when the bucks are beat down, and the hunting pressure is off, and the big bucks are trying to look for food to survive.
x2 on all 3 points.
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/24/09 01:49 AM
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Of course, completely different when you own the land though.... I was once a die hard year to year lease hunterso I understand, just saying
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/24/09 01:50 AM
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There are studies out that say 2 1/2 -3 1/2 year olds breed more doe per year than the older bucks. If you are talking about a true throphy then we should be talking about at least a 5 1/2 by then he hopefully has done plenty of breeding.
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/24/09 05:35 AM
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As many does as we got in our area every buck gets at least one chance!
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/24/09 05:40 AM
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/24/09 06:30 AM
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Sure would like to find some links that back up the research that most immature deer do the breeding. Don't have any documentation but I have always been under the impression it was opposite.
Be back in the morning with information or a changed opinion.
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/24/09 01:27 PM
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If I can take one pre rut that I want ,thats what I prefer because post rut there more likly to have broken up antlers.
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/24/09 02:11 PM
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  whenever he shows up.
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/24/09 02:37 PM
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but id be willing to bet that as far as low fence ranches go, the biggest bucks get taken opening weekend.
negative.....still hunting him. This one is making things difficult.
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/24/09 03:38 PM
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I just like to hunt and when does not make any difference to me. I like to see the buck on camera or in person (before the season) and hunt that one buck the rest of the year. If a bigger one shows, I have been known to fine tune my focus and take a different buck, but I just enjoy being out there in the field. I will be there pre-rut, rut, post-rut and any time they have a season. The more opportunities, the better the chance of killing a big deer.
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/24/09 04:56 PM
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Sure would like to find some links that back up the research that most immature deer do the breeding. Don't have any documentation but I have always been under the impression it was opposite.
Be back in the morning with information or a changed opinion. yea guys, where is this documentation? only thing ive ever witnessed is the big bucks running off the younger bucks and doing the breeding they want instead of the youngins.
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/24/09 05:04 PM
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Seriously???? Most of us don't have the luxury of letting mature, trophy deer walk and expect to ever get a chance at him again.
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/24/09 05:07 PM
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whenever he shows up. +1
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Re: When do you shoot BIG BUCKS pre rut or post rut
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11/24/09 05:09 PM
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Sure would like to find some links that back up the research that most immature deer do the breeding. Don't have any documentation but I have always been under the impression it was opposite.
Be back in the morning with information or a changed opinion. yea guys, where is this documentation? only thing ive ever witnessed is the big bucks running off the younger bucks and doing the breeding they want instead of the youngins. Way I figured it is there are more immature bucks than mature bucks by a large number. Say the ratio of mature bucks to immature is 10 immatures for every 1 mature buck. If there are plenty of does, 10 immature bucks are going to outbreed 1 mature buck in my way of thinking. If you are at an ideal ratio of 1 doe to 1 buck, a mature buck would stand a better chance, but I think even in this situation the 10 immature bucks still outbreed the 1 mature buck. I just believe that a mature buck cannot be everwhere covering every doe. Am I wrong?
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