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east texas #994955 10/28/09 01:19 PM
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besides not seeing many deer, why do a lot of hunters not like to hunt in East Texas?


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too many hunters, people shoot the first horned then they see (why they have AR's now) too many hunters, small deer, lack of good leases, leases typically are small, too many hunters



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I understand about the "first horned deer" seen and that may change with the AR's, but many locals will have to be busted for that to change. I don't agree an the small deer aspect, because I also hunt in Brady Texas and the deer there seem smaller unless are managed and high fenced. The parks and wildlife did a study and found out that east Texas was the best place to manage deer. The amount of rain fall, vegetaion, cover and land prices were at the top of the list. Do you think a properly managed high fenced lease in East texas could grow as "big" deer as they do in the south?


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Small leases? I have hunted east Texas all my live and have never seen a lease under 3,000 acres. Now a wast Texas might seem small with 40 to 45 hunters on a lease. I do agree with guys killing anything that moves. But what i do like about east Texas is what you pay for a lease. I am on a 13,000 acre lease and im only paying 650$ a family year round.
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I have never hunted east Texas but I always read on here about small deer, the poachers, things like that. I would like to hunt there some day for a change of pace. Seems like the prices are reasonable.



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Originally Posted By: Frankenstein
I have never hunted east Texas but I always read on here about small deer, the poachers, things like that. I would like to hunt there some day for a change of pace. Seems like the prices are reasonable.


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I don't like hunting in pine trees. I like mesquites personally. Plus bigfoot doesn't live out west.


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I'd venture to say that the deer are just as big or even bigger in East Texas.. Finding them is a bit tough though.



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Re: east texas [Re: huntindude] #995702 10/28/09 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: fishindude
besides not seeing many deer, why do a lot of hunters not like to hunt in East Texas?


So much of the area is timber company land and ppl don't have as much say as to what goes on. One year they have a great stand, the next year it has been clearcut. Have tried hunting the hill country and brush country and it's just not my cup of tea. Love me some pine trees! up


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I'd venture to say that the deer are just as big or even bigger in East Texas.. Finding them is a bit tough though.


And that's especially true after the intitial two or three weeks of the season. Once December rolls around, you're better off hunting during the middle of week when the deer just seem to know most of the hunters are gone.



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Hunting really sux in NE Texas. You metro mess guys should stay out west and south of here. Would hate for yall to waste your time in east texas. Like I said the hunting is terrible around these parts;)



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Originally Posted By: Big Daddy K
Hunting really sux in NE Texas. You metro mess guys should stay out west and south of here. Would hate for yall to waste your time in east texas. Like I said the hunting is terrible around these parts;)


I was gonna say the same thing! wink up


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Originally Posted By: rifleman
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besides not seeing many deer, why do a lot of hunters not like to hunt in East Texas?


So much of the area is timber company land and ppl don't have as much say as to what goes on. One year they have a great stand, the next year it has been clearcut. Have tried hunting the hill country and brush country and it's just not my cup of tea. Love me some pine trees! up
x2 i enjoy the scenery alot more than when hunting out west and south. i dunno what it i but i really enjoy hunting east texas.



cant beat it for the money either, i pay 600 to hunt on 14000 acres


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we hunted about 1/2 way between Newton and Orange for generations. We would sometimes go an entire season and never see a deer while on the stand. We had such a good time, we never knew the hunting sucked.

The Timber is sort of a constant deal. The clear cut it, then for several years the trees are just the right height that you can't see anything. You aren't allowed to make shooting lanes. Sometimes the "beetles" would get trees in a spoke pattern from the stand... Then after 10 years they would come cut every 3rd row and clear out the underbrush and it was good again - until the next clear-cut.

Probably the biggest deal is the high number of "outlaws" in that part of the state.





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I have hunted south Texas for 16 years @ Del Rio.I also have owned land in east Texas for 30 years(pine tree farm).I started hunting south Texas because east Texas didn't have many deer and very small racks.It has been a major turn around in the last 3 years.I don't know what has happened but I have been thinking of dropping my south Texas lease and hunting east full time.I have had 12 deer at my feeder at one time(et).My 11 point buck I shot last year was bigger than my 10 point in south Texas.That is all I have to say.Good Luck to everyone,wherever you hunt.


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...It has been a major turn around in the last 3 years.I don't know what has happened but I have been thinking of dropping my south Texas lease and hunting east full time.
AR's or new neighbors?



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You can say what you want about east Texas but there is some great hunting over there!
I own a little over a hundred acres and have year round great hog hunting and have taken some nice bucks too! Last year I took a P&Y buck and am seeing some this year as well! Just have not had the chance to stick one of them yet.

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Both.Great question.New neighbors,less shooting.


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I live and hunt east texas. I can't get used to hunting in wide open areas, love me some heavy timber. Its perfect for my mathews!!


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Originally Posted By: james77351
Small leases? I have hunted east Texas all my live and have never seen a lease under 3,000 acres. Now a wast Texas might seem small with 40 to 45 hunters on a lease. I do agree with guys killing anything that moves. But what i do like about east Texas is what you pay for a lease. I am on a 13,000 acre lease and im only paying 650$ a family year round.
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how many hunters are on that 13k acre place? i've seen deals like that, for $600 or $700 dollars but there are 150 hunters on it and they only get to put up one stand. if you break it down like that then you really don't have a 13k acre lease.


I hunted in east texas for about 6 years, we had two places in walker county, one was 100 acres of straight timber west of 45 and the other was close to riverside off hwy 19. the riverside place was 600 acres.

the hunting on the timber place was pretty bad, sometimes you would see a few does, sometimes nothing. I hunted there for 2 years and didn't see a buck. when we got the other place, we had pretty good hunting. every time you sat you saw 5-10 deer, most of the time you got to see a buck. Had no problem killing deer there, and we always saw decent bucks for east texas. my dad killed a mainframe 8 with two 3 in stickers that scored 135. I consider that place execptional for east texas. about a 60/40 mix of hardwoods to pines.

Can you grow big deer in east texas? sure, especially with a high fence and a good amount of land. The genetics are certainly there. But Imo, and i'm sure most hunters outside of east texas would agree, that the truly big deer are comming out of and will continue to come out of south texas and the panhandle.

A main contributing factor is the "git mine while I can" attitude. The shoot the first decent buck I see so the neighbor don't get him scenario is pretty prevalent in east texas and the gulf coast prarie



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You aren't allowed to make shooting lanes.
technically you can you just have to do it the way the timber company says you can in the rules. that dont mean you cant have "lightning" strike you some nice shooting lanes. grin


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I love East Texas hunting and will more than likely always hunt in East Texas. This is probably due to the fact that I cannot afford to hunt anywhere else and probably never will.


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You aren't allowed to make shooting lanes.
technically you can you just have to do it the way the timber company says you can in the rules. that dont mean you cant have "lightning" strike you some nice shooting lanes. grin


heck yeah... or as soon as a place gets cut, get with the company's head forester for the region about pushing foodplots along the SMZs.


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What I have grown to like about hunting East Texas is, a lot of times you have to actually hunt to find a deer, unlike a lot of places in South Texas where all you do is wait for the one you want to shoot. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a South Texas hunting hatah, in fact if I could afford it, I would probably be on a South Texas lease. I did just get an invite from a buddy of mine to go hunt on his place in Guadelupe County this season! Looking forward to that!


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Small leases? I have hunted east Texas all my live and have never seen a lease under 3,000 acres. Now a wast Texas might seem small with 40 to 45 hunters on a lease. I do agree with guys killing anything that moves. But what i do like about east Texas is what you pay for a lease. I am on a 13,000 acre lease and im only paying 650$ a family year round.
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how many hunters are on that 13k acre place? i've seen deals like that, for $600 or $700 dollars but there are 150 hunters on it and they only get to put up one stand. if you break it down like that then you really don't have a 13k acre lease.


I hunted in east texas for about 6 years, we had two places in walker county, one was 100 acres of straight timber west of 45 and the other was close to riverside off hwy 19. the riverside place was 600 acres.

the hunting on the timber place was pretty bad, sometimes you would see a few does, sometimes nothing. I hunted there for 2 years and didn't see a buck. when we got the other place, we had pretty good hunting. every time you sat you saw 5-10 deer, most of the time you got to see a buck. Had no problem killing deer there, and we always saw decent bucks for east texas. my dad killed a mainframe 8 with two 3 in stickers that scored 135. I consider that place execptional for east texas. about a 60/40 mix of hardwoods to pines.

Can you grow big deer in east texas? sure, especially with a high fence and a good amount of land. The genetics are certainly there. But Imo, and i'm sure most hunters outside of east texas would agree, that the truly big deer are comming out of and will continue to come out of south texas and the panhandle.

A main contributing factor is the "git mine while I can" attitude. The shoot the first decent buck I see so the neighbor don't get him scenario is pretty prevalent in east texas and the gulf coast prarie


we are running about 45 to 50 hunters on the section i hunt witch is 13,000 acres. The lease is just over 36,000 acres over 3 different county's with around 150 or so hunters. I am on a really nice lease and have been it for 2 years now seen lots of deer and seen some real nice bucks killed


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