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 Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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10/04/10 04:35 PM
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rifleman
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Amos's ranch does it again...Awsome!!!!!!! x2... someone has been holding out on us. 
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: rifleman]
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10/04/10 04:54 PM
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texasd
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Amos's ranch does it again...Awsome!!!!!!! x2... someone has been holding out on us. x3
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: texasd]
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10/04/10 05:13 PM
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Dustnsand
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I'm amazed at the deer they have on that ranch but that one is just insane
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: TXW]
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10/04/10 05:30 PM
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Doesn't penning them in a high fence and adding tons of protein to their diet constitute .....SCIENTIFIC INFLUENCE!!!!
Not impressed. A free ranging 160 class buck is more impressive! x2 x3 x4
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: A.B.]
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10/04/10 05:31 PM
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Justin T
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How many 160 inch free range bucks have been shot? How many 300 inch native deer have been shot?
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: Justin T]
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10/04/10 05:33 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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How many 160 inch free range bucks have been shot? How many 300 inch native deer have been shot? x2 Lots of 160in LF bucks if you go to the right ranch!!
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: Justin T]
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10/04/10 05:34 PM
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stxranchman
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He is a great buck no matter where he was raised. Get over it.
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: stxranchman]
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10/04/10 05:36 PM
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Yes, great Buck, congrats Marko, impressive!
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: Justin T]
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10/04/10 05:36 PM
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Still pen raised no matter how you look at it, great deer but doesn't really mean much in the big picture to people chasing the trophy of a lifetime in low fence, anyone with $$$ can buy a high fence buck, great if you like that type hunting but wouldn't not have the same feeling as walking up on 170" buck in a free range.
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: stxranchman]
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10/04/10 05:36 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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He is a great buck no matter where he was raised. Get over it. x2 if it was a breeder buck I say nice deer and leave it at that.. but it's native with the same genetics that have been in that area for a 100 years.
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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10/04/10 05:38 PM
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stxranchman
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He is a great buck no matter where he was raised. Get over it. x2 if it was a breeder buck I say nice deer and leave it at that.. but it's native with the same genetics that have been in that area for a 100 years. X2 Well said. 
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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10/04/10 05:39 PM
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Can't knock the impressive buck, but it would have been better served as a breeder than a trophy just my opinion.
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
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10/04/10 05:43 PM
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that is an absolute monster. congrats for sure. what i like is the father shot him and did not sale it off to the highest bidder, cause who knows how much that sucker would have brought in.
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: Trophy Slayer]
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10/04/10 05:45 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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Can't knock the impressive buck, but it would have been better served as a breeder than a trophy just my opinion. and the beauty of it is it wasn't a breeder and the only breeding it did was via natural meaning only if he was the dominant buck 
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
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10/04/10 05:46 PM
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Doesn't penning them in a high fence and adding tons of protein to their diet constitute .....SCIENTIFIC INFLUENCE!!!!
Not impressed. A free ranging 160 class buck is more impressive! Ingorance shinning through every word of this statement. Not every High fence ranch is a pen and not all feed "tons of protein"
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: Trophy Slayer]
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10/04/10 05:47 PM
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stxranchman
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Still pen raised no matter how you look at it, great deer but doesn't really mean much in the big picture to people chasing the trophy of a lifetime in low fence, anyone with $$$ can buy a high fence buck, great if you like that type hunting but wouldn't not have the same feeling as walking up on 170" buck in a free range. If it was so easy to buy a ranch and have monster bucks running around everywhere, then why aren't there more deer like this being taken every year? You can't show a deer your wallet and expect them to just grow into true trophies. It takes genetics. There are some truly large trophy deer taken on low fence ranches that feed protien and have food plots. Do they not qualify as trophies in your judgement of what it takes to produce a trophy? Just curious.
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
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10/04/10 05:47 PM
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texasd
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Still pen raised no matter how you look at it, great deer but doesn't really mean much in the big picture to people chasing the trophy of a lifetime in low fence, anyone with $$$ can buy a high fence buck, great if you like that type hunting but wouldn't not have the same feeling as walking up on 170" buck in a free range. need to read few more of amos post before jumping to assumptions on BUYING DEER.... go back, search his name.. do a little reasearch then come back and post a proper response....
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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10/04/10 05:48 PM
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Can't knock the impressive buck, but it would have been better served as a breeder than a trophy just my opinion. and the beauty of it is it wasn't a breeder and the only breeding it did was via natural meaning only if he was the dominant buck with that age structure, I can bet he got dished out plenty of butt whoopins even w/ that massive set of headgear.
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
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10/04/10 05:48 PM
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Still pen raised no matter how you look at it, great deer but doesn't really mean much in the big picture to people chasing the trophy of a lifetime in low fence, anyone with $$$ can buy a high fence buck, great if you like that type hunting but wouldn't not have the same feeling as walking up on 170" buck in a free range. and another, your definition of "pen" is warped
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
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10/04/10 05:56 PM
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I understand you guys and you have your opinions I can respect that, I don't think if you were incarcerated regardless of how big your institution was you would still be trapped, feed protein and any other supplement it is just taking care of your heard. As I said not disrespecting the hunter or the deer. I just don't view it as a trophy. If I respect your thoughts what is the problem with respecting my views. To each his own i am for hunting regardless of how it is done, just my thoughts on a trophy are different than yours.
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
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10/04/10 06:12 PM
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A. If you consider 6 square miles of heavy woods a "pen", then sure. That's a pen that is well larger than a buck's natural range anyway.
B. Someone didn't come up and just buy the deer. It was taken by a family member that put in hard work getting their herd to the point that it naturally produced that deer.
C. As mentioned - if it's as easy as opening a checkbook, why has no one done so in the history of the State? This wasn't a breeder buck or the offspring of a breeder buck. Native Texas genetics.
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
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10/04/10 06:17 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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I understand you guys and you have your opinions I can respect that, I don't think if you were incarcerated regardless of how big your institution was you would still be trapped, feed protein and any other supplement it is just taking care of your heard. As I said not disrespecting the hunter or the deer. I just don't view it as a trophy. If I respect your thoughts what is the problem with respecting my views. To each his own i am for hunting regardless of how it is done, just my thoughts on a trophy are different than yours. I can live with this. I have a feeling you have killed your share of big bucks, so I know you respect that deer no matter where it was killed, you have your convictions on what is a trophy and nothing wrong with that. Trophy or none trophy in my eyes doesn't really many anything.. I just like deer.... big, small, ugly, fat, skinny or short...as long as its not a breeder deer, which I'm not a fan, but will never say anything bad. Guys like us(that only shoot mature deer) can't really diss any thing Marco does b/c his practices are what many of us use on our own places.. and his results are what help convince our niebhors/other hunters not to shoot great young deer with lots of protential.
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: texasd]
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10/04/10 06:21 PM
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Still pen raised no matter how you look at it, great deer but doesn't really mean much in the big picture to people chasing the trophy of a lifetime in low fence, anyone with $$$ can buy a high fence buck, great if you like that type hunting but wouldn't not have the same feeling as walking up on 170" buck in a free range. need to read few more of amos post before jumping to assumptions on BUYING DEER.... go back, search his name.. do a little reasearch then come back and post a proper response.... I dont think he said you can buy one from him (Amos). I read it as him saying you can buy one in general. It is a a monster buck!!!
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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10/04/10 06:22 PM
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texasd
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I understand you guys and you have your opinions I can respect that, I don't think if you were incarcerated regardless of how big your institution was you would still be trapped, feed protein and any other supplement it is just taking care of your heard. As I said not disrespecting the hunter or the deer. I just don't view it as a trophy. If I respect your thoughts what is the problem with respecting my views. To each his own i am for hunting regardless of how it is done, just my thoughts on a trophy are different than yours. I can live with this. I have a feeling you have killed your share of big bucks, so I know you respect that deer no matter where it was killed, you have your convictions on what is a throphy and nothing wrong with that. Trophy or none trophy in my eyes doesn't really many anything.. I just like deer.... big, small, ugly, fat, skinny or short...as long as its not a breeder deer, which I'm not a fan, but will never say anything bad. Guys like us(that only shoot mature deer) can't really diss any thing Marco does b/c his practices are what many of us use on our own places.. and his results are what help convince our niebhors/other hunters not to shoot great young deer with lots of protential. yep.... what bobo said... also if all low fence places and hell if all high fence would practice what he does there would be awesome deer for all to have..
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Re: Possible New State Record Whitetail Deer.
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10/04/10 06:23 PM
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I see both sides of this disagreement.
First off, the buck is a monster that anyone would love to kill. Yes it was high fence, but if your neighbors box you in, what are you going to do? I'd manage it the best I could, which is obviously what he has been doing.
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